Comments on: Why William Shatner Won’t Be In ‘Star Trek XI’

By: craig12321s

craig12321s — Tue, 20 May 2008 01:46:15 +0000

So you dont’ think starting off the reboot of Star Trek by going to Veridian 3 and DIGGING KIRK UP (Where talking litterally here, he was buried after all) would be a great way to restart the franchise and get new non-trekkies into the theature…?

By: Milander

Milander — Tue, 06 May 2008 20:41:26 +0000

As a long time trekkie, Kirks’ death was perhaps the best. He died for what he believed in and it was a touching way to pass on the torch to Picard. IMHO the best character death of all was Datas’ and the worst that of Tasha Yar. Yes, there is also Siskos’ death but we all saw that coming, it was just a question of how is he going to die.

By: Ummm...

Ummm... — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:39:00 +0000

If I’m not mistaken, J.T. Kirk is being played by Chris Pine.
I personally think it’s stupid that Shatner is not cast for Kirk in this movie… financially it makes no sense whatsoever. And for all who think Kirk is dead, well, believe what you want, it may be true… but this movie takes place before his death anyway (apparently b/c we see the enterprise construction sequence, and we note that Chris Pine is cast for the “supposedly dead” Kirk role) So again, get off the dead crap.

By: abi

abi — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:40:08 +0000

Kirk is dead
Picard is overrated
Sisco is the true badass
Janeway is less interesting than her crew
Archer… is Scott Bachula damit

By: T.E. Pouncey

T.E. Pouncey — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:37:16 +0000

I have to agree with those who DON’T want Kirk back. I’m a fan or both the character and Shatner but Spock, who lives longer than humans, is a much better character to present the history of the Enterprise since he has had MUCH longer to think about it.
In fact, Spock SERVED on the Enterprise much longer than Kirk.
What REALLY bothers me, is the idea of Spock and Kirk being at Star Fleet Academy TOGETHER. We already know that Spock served 13 years under Captain Pike before serving with Kirk. There is NO WAY Spock and Kirk were at the academy at the same time.

By: Empress Eve

Empress Eve — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:29:45 +0000

@Bill
I was citing the article, which paraphrased something Shatner said. I have not read the book, therefore, I wouldn’t know if that source had it correct. While I don’t think you’re being “a dick” for pointing our potential errors, I do think it’s unrealistic of you to think that I can read an entire book before posting something timely like this. It’d be nice if I could, but again, unrealistic.

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:45:41 +0000

In “The Return” Spock did not bring back Kirk. It was the Romulans and the Borg working together to use Kirk against the Federation.

Not to be a dick, but read the book before sighting a source.

By: Roger

Roger — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:56:50 +0000

I am a fan of James T. Kirk. In fact, I sometimes find myself emulating some of his personal qualities. The way he died in Generations was really sad – of course, a starship captain who was a legend and icon deserves a more heroic death. Legends are remembered not only for how they lived and changed the lives of others, but how they died, too. And let’s face it, Kirk would not be Kirk without Shatner. Some people knock him for his acting style those days, but I think it was that exact style that made him acceptable during that time. So will his style fit today’s generation? Probably not, but that is why Kirk is Kirk. A cameo role? Why not? A tribute to a legend who was killed off expediently in an ungloried, accidental manner? Please find a better way to put the soul of James T. Kirk to rest. Create the legend one last time, at least before he dies off permanently – in the way a legend should. Live long and prosper!

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:21:10 +0000

Let’s be honest here: Shatner WILL be in the film. Abrams is all about the mystery and the reveal (see Lost , Cloverfield, Alias) and if you have a story ABOUT the early years of the main character of a 40 year, 5 billion dollar enterprise (see what I did there) and not feature the actor who originated the role then that would be the true surprise.

Look at Shatner’s interviews recently for the clues. First, he releases a video talking about how hurt he is not being in the film. Classic misdirection, but the tone of the video went too far and it looked like he was criticizing the film. Suddenly, a week later there’s another video retracting some of his views of the film and saying that it will be a fine film without him. Clearly, Paramount didn’t want a fanboy revolt and negative press so they asked him to soften his tone.

Here is the probability of various events in the film coming to pass:

Audience stares at Wynonna Ryder in film and says, “Hey that’s Wynonna Ryder” – 3 to 1
Variety of new ships and aliens ripe for toy production in film 7 to 5
Cloverfield monster appears 312 to 1
Someone references Enterprise Series – 89,000 to 1
Kirk NOT revealed at end of film – 7,000,000 to 1

By: Schutzenegger

Schutzenegger — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:07:32 +0000

I don’t know if any of you have ever written a story or made a movie.

You only have so much time given you in a movie, so if you spend forever trying to explain why Kirk is back then where did the rest of your movie go? well, it’s going to be weak because you used all your time to bring back a character. It worked for Spock because that was the whole movie, “let’s bring Spock back” and they already had things in place to do it, it had been set up in the movie he died in

By: Slayve

Slayve — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:53:15 +0000

Trekkie fight!

By: jim158

jim158 — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:41:00 +0000

I seem to remember Spock dead at the end of Star Trek II but he came back in Trek III. It’s fiction and the writer can do anything they dream up look what they did to Ripley in Alien 4.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:06:35 +0000

I never saw Kirk’s death as pointless. He saved Picard because he had a ship to run and a crew to go back to. Kirk didn’t, and he knew that. He, along with Picard, got to save the Universe one last time. I felt it was a fitting ending to a film, but we all have our opinions.

By: Empress Eve

Empress Eve — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:53:21 +0000

@Ryan
My point was that 1) if you’re already going to put Nimoy in the film, don’t try and act like adding any other original actor would be transparent — adding Nimoy is transparent already!; 2) don’t use some lame excuse like Shatner’s character died on screen — so did Spock!!! Yet, they found a way to bring him back, conveniently (and thankfully!); and 3) I don’t speak for ALL Trek fans, I was basically saying all the Trek fans I know didn’t accept Kirk’s death, simply because it was SO lame. How can you take a character like that and give him such a pointless, anti-climatic death? I went to see Generations when it came out and I was sitting with a large group of friends, all of whom hated Kirk’s death. In my mind, Kirk’s not dead. That’s doesn’t mean I can’t accept a younger actor playing a young Kirk — I’m totally down with that and looking forward to it and I welcome a fresh look at the franchise.

But mark my words: This first film is going to do ridiculously well at the box office, and since the young actors are all already signed on for multiple films, expect the next film to be Star Trek XII: The Search for Kirk — mark ‘em!!!

By: Ryan

Ryan — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 00:28:14 +0000

I agree with the last three comments. One cannot just write an article for a site and assume you are speaking for the entire Trek-fanbase. Generations released 14 years ago. 14! If you are seriously still hanging on to hopes of seeing any future plot with a character like that, clearly you don’t hold story up to anything. That’s like people saying having Joker in The Dark Knight is too soon. “But its too soon because we still have Nicholson’s role in our hearts and minds. He’s still the ‘best’.” Batman came out 19 years ago! I would say that is plenty of time to see a new, albeit, truer to canon version of the Joker, for those who didn’t read the comics or see Batman stories outside of the movies. The Treks of old had their day.

It’s time for Abrams and the new generation of story tellers to spread their nessels and breathe new life into this dying saga. Otherwise, we’ll just get more Voyager episodes which are really just two or three TNG episodes smashed together.