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Best News Ever: Ice Man Richard Kuklinski Movie Delayed Due To Channing Tatum Casting Possibility

The Movie God   |  

Ice ManIn this world, there is nothing more refreshing than someone saying “no” to the misguided and highly-confused Hollywood machine.

The New York Post is reporting that Phil Carlo, author of The Ice Man: Confessions of a Mafia Contract Killer, has pulled out of his deal with producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura to turn his book into a movie. The reason: di Bonaventura wanted to cast questionable budding superstar Channing Tatum (G.I. Joe, Step Up) in the lead role of the Ice Man, Richard Kuklinski. If you’re not familiar with Kuklinski, then this doesn’t really affect you either way. Believe me when I say that would have been one of the most disgusting casting choices in the history of cinema.

In case you’re not familiar with him, Richard Kuklinski was a man who claimed to have killed 100 to 200 people, and this being true would not surprise me in the least. At first, he was just a purely cold-blooded killer who told stories of murdering people with no remorse for every-day things that simply piss you and I off, like road rage. When the mafia caught wind of his…ability…to kill without a second thought, they went out and hired him as their hitman. He obtained his nickname, Ice Man, due to the fact that he threw the bodies of his victims in a giant freezer to make determining the time of death nearly impossible. He died in prison in 2006.

Click over to see a video featuring one of history’s most dangerous men ever to exist.

Apparently, the option that di Bonaventura owned was about to expire, and he was asking for more time from Carlo so he could get financing and get the project moving. Carlo had heard that the actor he had in mind was Tatum, so he smartly said no.

Here’s a quote on the matter from Carlo:

I had to turn him down. I really hated the idea of Channing Tatum. I told di Bonaventura that this is not the guy to play one of the most feared killers of the 20th Century. I think Mickey Rourke would really be good. He’s got that sense of danger, and there’s a similarity between the two. But it’s not Channing Tatum.

Honestly, I don’t even think Mickey Rourke is a good choice for this role, at all.

It’s hard for me to even describe this man to you if you haven’t seen him with your own eyes. MSNBC has two specials that feature him sitting down with an interviewer, ready and willing to answer every single question in detail. Late one night, I caught one of these specials by chance, and I’ve never been the same. I couldn’t change the channel because the man was frightfully fascinating — he was diabolically infatuating. The way he spoke about these incredibly unspeakable acts…was almost hard to watch. He spoke of them with no remorse, no regret, not a care in the world, like he would and could do every single one of them again in a heartbeat. The man was literally ice cold, and I always thought his nickname fit him much better in this regard.

The reason a name like Channing Tatum makes me so angry, is because of how unique this man was, not only in his personality, but in his mannerisms. He had a very distinct voice complete with an accent. His eyes and his mouth had very obvious and natural ticks to their movements while he spoke of his acts. This man wasn’t born, he was undeviatingly molded of the fires of Hell. Then when you didn’t think a man could be harder to portray as an actor, he throws another layer into the cake: sadness. At one point in one of the specials, Kuklinski’s family becomes the topic of discussion, and in one of the more chilling scenes of the whole thing, you see the slightest of slight signs of emotion. This man with no emotion whatsoever — no problem with killing another human being — truly and honestly loved his family. You witness a man with no regrets bare his one regret, and it can almost be a touching moment. If there is an actor out there who could portray this man with perfection, there is no doubt in my mind that they would win an Oscar — it would be one thousand times more impressive than Charlize Theron’s similar job on Monster.

When I first saw these specials, I immediately wished I could write the script, because the character was just that amazing. Unfortunately, I’m not that talented. I literally spent hours thinking about it as a movie and who could possibly play Richard Kuklinski, and I could not think of one. James Gandolfini is probably the closest one out there, but because he played Tony Soprano, he’s already typecast and it wouldn’t work. I think someone like Paul Giamatti could do it, but he’s too small — Kuklinski was a giant of a man. I think someone like Michael Parks (Bill’s gentleman of leisure father-figure in Kill Bill Volume 2) could do well, but again, too small, too skinny.

The reason why I think it’s impossible to play Kuklinski? Because that man has seen things more horrible than any of us could ever imagine, and you can see it in his eyes. Whether someone can play him or not is yet-to-be-seen, but I promise you one thing: Channing Tatum is so far from talented enough to do the job, it’s sickening.

As you can tell, I’ve had a large amount of thoughts about this man and his story as a movie. With no one else ever having seen it that I could discuss it with, you guys get to hear it all. Thanks for sticking in there!

Here’s one part of one of the specials on MSNBC. It’s an interview from 1995, and you can see for yourself what I mean. I believe you can watch the rest on YouTube if you want to. I’m not sure how often they’re replayed on TV. Video has some graphic topics and images, so watch with caution.

I want to hear what you all think. Who could possibly play Richard Kuklinski in a movie, and do it well?

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  • http://thebikerpastor.com Rev John

    There is only 1 person that can play this part, Brother Frank Minucci, I know because Frankie & I were the ONLY PEOPLE (Biker Pastors) allowed to speak to him in Prison, Frankie played Tony T in Carlitos way, I know he would be Great, I new him in the old days and am friends with him today, Check out Brother Frank Minucci in google, and Frankie grew up around the ice man,? Typecasting???? Maybe,,,,,,,,,,,

  • Jonathan T

    When I thought of my actor I honestly thought more people would have suggested him, but turns out I’m the first. Liev Schreiber. He’s a bankable star, got the right build (height and frame), a great actor who can convincingly play an evil character and he is of some Polish ancestry (like Kuklinski). With the right make up and hair I think he could pull it off well.

  • Paul

    The lead actor in No country for old men – Javier Bardem

  • robert

    i think what carlo did was the right thing.how can any actor”apart from de niro” be so convenseing. no way I SAY!

  • Alan

    Ron Perlman would be a good choice…

  • DP

    I don’t think it matters who does what…the movie is going to ruin a great book and several documentaries. I have been fascinated with this man for so long now that I just cannot imagine ANYONE capturing this character.

  • just a nodody who is passionate about movies

    I understand what you’re saying about Gandolfini being at risk of getting type-cast, but seriously, he is the only choice. The only choice.

    Look at the pictures of Kuklinksi when he was a young man. I’d never seen those pictures before because I’ve only really just become interested in him, but when I watched that doc and saw those pictures it sent a shiver down my spine. That could almost have been Gandolfini himself.

    I dont think we should be afraid of type-casting actors. I think we should be more afraid of not casting the right person, or afraid of making a less than stellar film. Take Kemper for example. Now there is a man worthy of a film, a fascinating character who I could sit and listen to for hours if given the opportunity, but look at the film they made about him. The one serial killer who’s story was almost tailor made for a serious look at society, and they missed that opportunity and instead produced brain-mushing garbage. Choose to make a film, choose to make a film for the right reasons, choose to make the right film , and then choose to put the right actor in the right role.

    Thats Gandolfini. In fact I’d refuse to watch this film if he did’nt have that role. It would be criminal not to cast him in this particular case, even with the type-casting in mind.

  • nicole

    tom wilkinson definately!!!!!!!! and this book was beyond amazing. i hope they continue through with a movie. its one ill definately be seeing! and owning!!!

  • nicole

    i like the brother frank minucci though, he’d suite it well

  • Marcus

    A few of us have discussed this at work… I posted on Facebook the question who should play the part?

    I think Liam Neeson would be ideal… if he was 30 years younger Clint Eastwood would be a shout….

  • johnny rotten

    what about Bert Young from the Rocky films… or is he past it?

  • Andy E

    If he were younger, Nick nolte. Gary busey would get the sneer, and possibly work toward the accent and can be made to look like him. If he were an actor, boxing trainer Teddy Atlas, sounds just like him.
    Jack Nicholson could play the iceman who was interviwed for HBO.
    he’s closest to the attitude. john Lithgow, maybe.Gandolfini is TOO FAT.
    Remember the contradiction. The iceman was a big man, with a low controlled soft voice for a big man. believe it or not, Russell Crowe might be a good fit. One problem with the younger actors is that for the most part, they are too effeminate. Ben Affleck would be good. Michael Keaton might be ok, except his height.

  • Andy E

    Billy Zane would be an interesting pick

  • Andy E

    My last suggestion. Tobin Bell (from SAW 1-5)

  • Raffy

    Gerard Butler would be the perfect ICEMAN
    If you have seen Law Abiding Citizen then you totally agree with me.
    I have seen the ICEMAN interviews and read the book twice, it needs to be put on the big screen.

  • Angela

    Definitely James Gandolfino, my 2nd choice would be Liam Neeson. 3rd choice: Kiefer Sutherland.

  • collin

    What about john lithgow, at least for the older parts because i doubt they find only one actor to pull of kuklinski as it sounds like it will be a biopic. Lithgow already portrayed a convincing serial killer in dexter

  • juicer

    John Goodman. (circa his Big Lebowski days.)

    Speaking of Big Lebowski, what about Jeff Bridges?

    or Mike Starr.

  • Jane

    I agree with Andy who says Jack Nicholson. He can play any character and this is definitely a role he is cut out for. Richard was a beast, a giant-and that’s a very big aspect of his character. I should know-his grandson is my good friend.

  • Bean

    Michael Shannon… In his time, I think George C. Scott coulda pulled it off nicely.

  • Jamie

    Just got done reading the book. Unbelievable. I really hope they make this into a movie. John Malkovich maybe for the older Richard. They made him look like a big guy in Of Mice and Men. Might work.

  • Mark

    I think Eric Allen Kramer would be perfect for the role, if I was going to make the movie that’s who I would cast. I would also go for sean Penn for Roy demeo. My reasons behind my idea for Eric Allen Kramer is because he looks like the iceman, and virtually unknown. ( he was bear in American wedding) he’s a good actor. And Sean Penn because he’s Sean Penn.

  • amy

    Brian Dennehy

  • http://polack Nic

    Jeff Goldblum? Height, awkwardness, cold stare

  • Jason

    I think Paul Bettany would make a great younger Kuklinski(He’s the crazy monk from The Da Vinci Code) He also has a good height(A bit skinny though), and can do an amazing evil looking face that looks chilling.

    Also Roy Demeo (If he’s in it) can be played by either James gandolfini/Joe Pesci/Sean Penn or Nicholas Turturro.

    Pat Kane should absolutely be played by Christian Bale hands down.

    Dominic polifrone i believe can be played by John Turturro.

  • Robert

    Unfortunately it doesn’t matter who’s cast, because there’s no way you can tell his life story in around 3 hours. This is bound to fail. If you havent read his biography, do so. But for arguments sake Gandolfini fits the bill.

  • Mike

    james gandolfini the best

  • Imagination Man

    I looked up Tatum and had to laugh out loud. Is this High School casting? Mickey Rourke could make it work but I know if they find the right person the movie will surely be at least a 4 stars. Rourke would be more of a 3. Tatum? LOL 1.5 stars and that’s just being nice.

  • http://cjmarketingtools.info Chris

    I love the idea of Pennt o play DiMeo. I think that’s right on. As for The Iceman, a younger Sean Connery would have worked well. Obviously that’s not an option now, so I would have to go with Gerald McRaney.

  • polack

    Michael Ironside. easy.

  • http://profiles.google.com/rpram317 REYNA RAMIREZ

    I think and I know it sounds maybe to Hollywood but I think that Vince Voughn would make a good Richard Kulkinsky. He’s the right body built, same height could make a very convincing Polish Irish. They both have the same hair line. He could pull it off I know it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Danny-McDermott/1581051416 Danny McDermott

    Why does everyone think Pronge was a small man?? He was just as big as Kuklinski-lol. Franco and Knepper are horrible choices….The Guy was 6’2 and had red hair. Where are you pulling these guys out of? and why is it that everyone makes him seem like he was a weasely guy? He was Kuklinski’s mentor. Its well documented-Christian Bale puts on a little weight he would be a great Pronge. 

  • longliveUSA

    I agree with the writer of this article. Kuklinski is a complex and fascinating man, despite his crimes. If a movie is too be made, it should be made with the right motives and casting should be intelligently well thought out and careful. I get the sense that there is only a typical strong cynical desire for profit only, a cheap Hollywood whore trick pulled off by a bunch of ninnies. It would not do the subject matter justice.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TZ7NMRPJL3PJZT7KLT4JH5ENDY Polly Doege

    Robert de Niro.

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